Why You Can't Forget These Pixelated Memories

Unlock the childhood memories that shaped a generation — from pixelated adventures to innovative consoles, this episode is a nostalgic deep dive into the evolution of gaming that defined us.Ever wonder how a simple game of Oregon Trail or the thrill of Mario on the NES could shape your childhood? Drew and Kat take you on a trip down memory lane, sharing vivid stories about their first gaming experiences, iconic classics, and the technological leaps that transformed entertainment. Discover the stories behind legendary games like Contra, Sonic, and Street Fighter, and how these moments forged lifelong memories. You'll learn about the pivotal role of consoles like ColecoVision and the Nintendo NES, and why they’re still iconic today.We break down:

• The cultural impact of arcade classics like Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, and Mortal Kombat, and how they created a shared social experience.

• The educational side of early video games and how titles like The Oregon Trail and Microsurgeon were more than just entertainment—they were learning tools.

• Evolution of gaming hardware from Atari to Xbox, and how each jump forward revolutionized how we interact with technology.

• The nostalgia of computer labs, floppy disks, and creative design tools like Print Shop, showing how kids first learned to create digitally.

• The influence of gaming on later tech innovations like the internet, virtual assistants like Clippy, and how childhood trauma of pixelated dangers might explain our resilience today.

key topics

• Early gaming consoles and their impact
• Favorite childhood video games and memories
• The evolution of gaming technology and industry
• Cultural influence of video games on generations
• "I was really good at Mortal Kombat."
• "The light bikes in Tron were so cool."
• "Arcades were magical and addictive."

Chapters

00:00
Morning Vibes and Community Shoutouts

02:36
Nostalgic Gaming Memories

05:16
The Impact of Educational Games

07:28
The Evolution of Gaming Consoles

10:21
The Nintendo NES Revolution

12:57
The Joy of Print Shop and Design

15:36
Clippy and the Rise of Virtual Assistants

18:09
The Intellivision Experience

20:45
Favorite Games and Lasting Memories

24:56
Nostalgic Gaming Memories

33:37
The Evolution of Gaming Consoles

42:21
The Impact of Technology on Gaming

47:28
Reflections on Gaming Culture

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome into another episode of The Well. I'm Drew.

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And I'm Kat.

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Welcome.

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Welcome. Welcome to all.

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Welcome to all. Yes. So first things first. Good morning, Miss Katherine.

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Good morning. Good morning, dear.

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We we realized we're our best in the morning, which is weird because I'm not typically a morning person, but I am now. Age has a way of making you a morning person.

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We've been getting up so early. It's like, why not? We're fresh, fresh out the bed.

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Officially crossed the chasm of uh I guess elderly now.

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Which is not a bad thing, actually.

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So shout out to all the listeners on a few episodes that have really taken off. And if you haven't, you shout out to the frozen pizza community. So if you're not following, liking and subscribing, make sure you follow, like, and subscribe. Hit the bell. You'll hear all the new updates that when we're publishing, but or posting, I should say. But yeah, shout out to the frozen pizza community as well as the Gen X community. Yo, you all definitely showed up. You definitely have been showing up. So we appreciate all the uh awesome comments and engagement. The frozen pizza one's wild though, I gotta say. Yeah, that one's shout out to Stoffer's Frozen Pizza because you created a lot of memories for a lot of people.

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Yeah, and they still engage, even to this day. So I love that. I love when companies engage with their social media followers.

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And and a quick update on on Pizzagate. Have I have not found Stofer's Pizza yet? I haven't been able to find it. I went to two other places, still was unable to find it.

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You know who probably has it?

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Walmart. That's why we're not buying frozen pizza from Amazon. Freak, I would. No, it ruins the experience. I have to find it in store.

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Uh-huh. Okay.

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Don't ruin it for me.

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Okay.

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Don't ruin it. Whatever you want.

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I don't I I want to go old school. I want to actually go to the store and purchase something. I know that's a foreign con I know. It's a foreign concept these days. So I was I was thinking back, going way back in my time machine, and I started having memories of playing like the first time I started playing video games or had a game on something other than, you know, a board, like a physical board. It was elect something electronic.

SPEAKER_02 2:22

Right.

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And I think I was one of the first, and I don't know why. I think my parents got it for us. They got me and my brother a computer, and it was an Apple II E. I'll never forget it. It was in my brother's room. I don't even know how my parents afforded something like that, but they got us a computer, and we were like instantly addicted. And the Apple IIE was, I don't know if you remember it. I'll put a picture on the screen.

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No.

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It was like an all-in-one. So it had like the external keyboard, but the screen and and the computer was all one, and then it had the floppy drive. Right. And I'll never forget the games we used to play on that, which just kind of there was a few games that have stuck out in my memory. And I think they've stuck out for you as well.

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I know you you oh yeah, for sure.

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You're a little down the road computer person. But the one that sticks out for me the most that I think I had the most fun playing, which is weird because I am so directionally challenged. Like literally, I get lost coming out of a paper bag was where in the world is Carmen San Diego.

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I love that show. They turned it into a TV show.

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The game was so much. I just remember having so much fun playing that game. I don't know why. I don't know why that game was so much fun.

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Do you think it had to do with travel or like going around the world to new things? Like that was what it was for me. Like exploring.

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I don't know what it was.

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I wasn't good at the mystery part, even though I wanted to be.

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I think I so I always liked Clue as a kid. So same.

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Oh yeah.

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I just I think there was and I I think it was just also the visual of it. So I think it was the whole solving of something, right? So you had to solve the crime and you had to go places to solve it. So to me, it was there was a storyline to it, it was engaging. There was a bit of education, right? You were learning. So I I I loved games that you learned from, yet you didn't know you were like it wasn't toted as an educational game per se, or you didn't see it that way. So I thought that that was really I just I love that game. I love that game. I I'm trying to like I'm visioning it in my head just how bad the graphics were, like if you look back on it. But back then it was color. I was like, oh my gosh. Like, and it would take forever to load each screen, but the anticipation of it.

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Did they ever make a board game out of that?

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I'm sure they did. I think they spun that series off into a lot of things. But they did.

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It was the TV show for me. I didn't know they had the video game, or at least I don't remember it.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Oh yeah. I had it on my Apple IIe. I mean, we're going way back.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

That is. When was the Apple IIe released?

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Wait. The Apple II IIE. I'm curious now. T we come out. Gosh, what would you what would we do in 83? So yeah. I was a young and yeah, you were even born. You were like what, three?

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I was a baby. No. That was like one.

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Okay.

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Two, three. I'm not gonna tell anybody what my birthday was.

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Come on.

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I was a I was a young child.

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But it I remember the computer having just a massive library of games. And I can't remember all the games right now because I don't want to spend all the time on the Apple because it's not something that you had. So I want to make sure that we were talking about common things. But I just remember the experience with that computer. It was my second experience with computers because this is a fun story. I won't get into it, but you know, I got eviscerated in middle school because my mom was dating. No, my parents had gotten divorced. My mom was dating the most hated teacher in school. So that is not good for your student rep. Street cred, right? In school. So I got just it was it was a rough time. Middle school was a rough time for me. Ironically enough, he taught computers. So and I'll never forget he taught, I mean, he taught me a lot of things. He was a very interesting, smart man, but very disliked mid school. Ironically, my brother coined, he called him boner. Like literally, that's that was his name.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

Like why?

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That was I don't know. It just, I guess because he was bald, and it's just that's what he called him. So that's what everyone called him.

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Okay.

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So he taught me how to code on a on a Radio Shack TRS 80. He gave me a book and he said, Here, if you code this, you'll make like a spaceship game where you could fly a spaceship using the keyboard. I was like, that was super cool. And I learned I hate I realized at a very young age that I was not cut out to code, but I did learn how to write syntax and all this other stuff at a very young age. And I think the TRS 80 came out after the Apple, but that the Apple IIE was the start of something great for me as a kid that opened up my universe differently than it had in the past. So I want to ask you, what was your first gaming console?

SPEAKER_02 7:27

It was so one of my most favorite memories of gaming was the organ trail. That was one of the first games that I ever played because it was at school. We had a computer lab with those really old computers with the keyboard and the floppy disk. And I remember the sound it would make as it loaded up. Like, I'll never forget that sound. And then we couldn't wait for computer lab. Like I could not wait. And then when we got to play organ trail and it was like the green screen, and it's like so archaic, you know, compared to now. But at the time, you're like, this is cutting edge, right? It was so much fun. It was so much fun. So that was that was definitely my first. I think it was my first experience.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

Do you know when Oregon Trail came out?

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Nope.

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1971.

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I was gonna say, isn't it in the 70s? Yeah, but it came also.

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But it came really popular in the 80s, so you were spot. And actually, we played that on the Apple IIE. Shout out to Apple for making memories.

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But I'm gonna have to look at what the Apple IIE looked like.

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And because the game's memory brutal, though. Like it was a brutal you all died of dysentery.

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But we both we talked about this the other day. It's like, what was it I was telling you that was some kind of nursery rhyme? It was the other night.

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I was like, this piggy, this little piggy went to market.

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My dad used to tell like do this to my feet when I was a little kid. He'd be like, Oh, you know, uh, this little piggy went to this little piggy, and then the pinky was always, oh, and this little piggy went to market or whatever. We, we, we yeah, but the market, I saw this somewhere. The market meant like it was going to get like cut up and sold as bacon. And I was like, Why? We were saying, why did all of our nursery rhymes come from like sinister origins? You know, like ring around the rosy, pocket full of posies. Posies were like flowers for dead people, you know. And I'm like, actually, bring us down, Catherine.

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Jeez.

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And actually, the Apple IIe, that I use something similar, a version of that in my computer lab with the old mouse, the corded mouse. Oh my goodness. And the floppy I love the floppy discs, those are awesome.

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Yeah, and and I don't know if you remember, but first I want to continue talking about Oregon Trail.

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But continue.

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So everything was like catastrophic in that game, right? You had dysentery, you had the broken spoken wheels, right? The wheels would break, your charge.

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Uh-huh.

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Snake bites.

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Yeah.

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Drowning while getting lost. So it was survival. That game was that that game shaped the Gen X generation and early millennial generation. I feel like well, you know. And no shade, no shade to the I I know I captioned a couple of the things like as Gen X only. So shout out to the early millennials that that have popped into the comments and said, Hey, I remember that stuff too. So no shade. Everyone's welcome in this conversation. But yes, it definitely that organ trail kind of I don't know what the craze was because literally it was just it was a horrible game about horrible things.

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But we never thought about that, which is so interesting. As kids, we didn't think like it was it was not like a scary game. You would think it would be scary, but we thought it was hilarious. Like, you know, we couldn't get through our our you know, whatever winter, we froze to death, you know.

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I know. And if you if you were able to hunt the buffalo, it felt like you were winning the Super Bowl. I don't know if you remember that. Yeah, shooting this whole animal. You were like, uh-huh. And it's like great, you get to feed everyone for, you know, it definitely felt like winning.

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It was the best.

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So do you know what do you know what else was so much fun back in the day? Back in the day. Do you remember? So after so my house burnt down, we lost the Apple II E.

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Speaking of Oregon Trail.

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Yeah, speaking of disasters, lost everything. I had a tortured, tortured youth. We we had to get another computer and we got the Apple IIC, which was like portable, which was high tech, right?

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I don't even know what that looks like. Apple IIC.

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Yeah, it had a you could plug in an external monitor.

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It was I think those are the ones that I used in computer lab. Yeah, actually, these were exactly the ones I used.

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So we had that, which wasn't as much fun as the two E. But why it just it just didn't feel as fun.

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Okay.

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I don't know why. I guess because you you know, your first is your first. You always love your first.

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Yeah.

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So Print Shop. Do you remember Print Shop?

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Yes.

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You know, with the dot matrix printer.

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What was the big thing you used to make?

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The banners. Used to make the happy birthday banner. Oh, yeah. And literally you'd use like a ream of paper, and it would be it would take like you'd have to schedule it. It's kind of like schedule, you know, calling into FedEx or putting in an online order to FedEx. Hey, I need this print, right? You had to send the job to so you know, those dot matrix printers with the the perforated, you know, gosh, what were they called? The reams of paper with the perforations. Yeah, and it had ran around the cog and you'd pull it. Yeah, that was my gosh, that was awesome. Printing those images and that and Garfield. I remember printing a lot of Garfield. I don't know why, but Garfield seemed to be always a piece of clip art that was always available.

SPEAKER_02 13:09

That's funny. We'd always make the happy birthday signs. So I remember actually my sister started that she was eight years older than me. So she she would make the birthday signs and bring them home for for birthday parties for us. And then I got the chance to make them. And then later on, when I got older, I'd go to the library and they would have like a printer at the library at school. And shockingly enough, I would print a lot of stuff, kind of like how I do now.

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Yeah, so Catherine Catherine prints the internet, so she is not environmentally friendly.

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I like to have physical printouts of stuff.

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It's it's a problem. She prints almost as much as I. Well, her printing habit is like my sneaker habit. It's excessive.

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So but you have to give context. There's a reason. I mean, normally by myself, I wouldn't print a ton of stuff. The only reason I print a lot of stuff is because I run organizations.

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Damn.

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So back it up.

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Back it up. So polite. But yes, Photoshop. I still remember this. Print shop, print shop. The print shop, I think it was originally called.

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But they had templates, like they had already pre-selected things that you could like I remember a teddy bear, sign balloons, greeting cards, balloons.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I tried to big. Honestly, you know, it's funny. I actually think that was probably one of the first times I was really interested in design. Because you could create these banners. Like I loved the fact that you could create something, you know, and you had the freedom to like we didn't always get to go to computer lab and do stuff like that. It was rare we got to use print shop, but but my gosh, it was so much fun on everyone.

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And you could do some design layout too. Like I feel like that was one of the first things. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't obviously what we have today, but it was a way to create on the computer. Yeah. And I think it opened up a whole new world.

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Whole new world.

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I don't know if we needed that, but we always knew that. But it was your first exposure to clip art, at least mine.

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Ooh, you just triggered something.

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Memory unlocked.

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Memory unlocked. Word clippy. Word dot clippy later on. You remember Clippy, the little paper clip?

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Yes. I was not a fan of Clippy.

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It irritated me. It irritated everybody. That was the one. I was like, get off my screen.

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It wasn't how everyone disliked Clippy.

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But don't you think that was probably one of the first like I would consider that one of the first like chat bots? You know, like the first helper things.

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Yeah, like a virtual assistant.

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That was what it was called, a virtual assistant. So it just didn't work well. No, it didn't.

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But I appreciate the gosh. All the God. So guess when Windows came out, man, what what a game changer Windows was for the I used Word so much.

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I would write creative stories.

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I don't remember Windows NT. I mean, geez, really. I mean, when I took my MCSE, if anybody remembers that far back, Microsoft's Microsoft certified systems engineer. Oh, really? I went to get my MCSE certification because it was all the rage back then. And I had I had I was so broke that I needed to change careers because I just couldn't I couldn't cook anymore because it was killing me. But uh that was all the rage. So I went to night school, like evening classes and took this MCSE course. Anyway, so that was fun. But going back to video games, so outside of the computer, did you what was your first gaming console? Like what was the first Nintendo? Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

So like the original the NES.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

I mean, there there's no substitute for the Nintendo NES, but I want to take it a little further back and then we'll get to the N NES. I want to go progression wise. And this is probably before your time, but the Intellivision for me was so my best friend, we talked about him in an in the other episode, the car episode with the Jeep. He got a Coleco vision. I don't know if you remember ColecoVision, but he got it for Christmas and he invited me. He was so excited. He's like, You gotta come over, we gotta play Coleco. We pulled that thing, oh my gosh, like game changer. Ankey Kong, yeah, like glued. And the controller on ColecoVision was awesome. My dad was an interesting gift giver. He was always very he was an early adopter all the time.

SPEAKER_02 17:53

Yeah, sounds like I get it from. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

So instead of Coleco, which me and my brother wanted, he got us an Intellivision, which was totally different. And you couldn't play the same games, but they had a whole slew of other games.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

Yeah.

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So there was like Astro Smash or Asteroids, what was it called? I actually wrote it down because my brain is is mushy. Astro Smash, I was right. Okay. Major League Baseball Utopia was awesome. That's because that one was like strategy, and I was really into strategy games and Dungeons and Dragons on Intellivision, the dragon noise, I'll never forget. You talk about the noise the computer made. And I'll bet you I'll be able to find allergies this morning. It's like pollen fest here in Texas. But the noise the dragon made, I'll never forget that noise. It's kind of like when you were talking about the disc spinning and the computer.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

Yeah, I love that. Yes.

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So that was a great. And then television just had this cool like controller with the keypad, and it had like a joystick and the buttons on the side. So it was very, I don't know, that I played that nonstop. And there were two games that really stuck out for me. There was Dracula, where you would run around as Dracula and literally have to attack people. So and you had to do it in a certain amount of time before the sun came up, or you died and you could turn into a bat. And then there was a game. This game scared me. It was called Microsurgeon. And I'll put it up on the screen when I clip this. But literally, you piloted a tiny yes, you piloted a tiny medical probe inside the human body. You traveled through the bloodstream, the lungs, other organs, and you had to repair infection and damage. And you had to avoid things like bacteria and clots.

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And oh, that's funny.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

This was basically Fantastic Voyage, but the video game. So you I don't know if you remember Fantastic Voyage, where they would shrink, shrink the So that was those games forever, you know, are burned in my brain. But Microsurgeon was frightening. I mean, the graphics, you were literally flying around the body. It was very Rick Morales. Rick Morales.

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Honey, I shrunk the kids.

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Rick Moranis. Like Rick Morales. Who's that? Cat likes to make up people. Oh, that's gonna be a good clip. Let me mark that. Rick Morales.

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I don't even know where I got that name from.

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No one knows. Morales. Shout out to Rick Morales, by the way.

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But I remember the movie Honey I Shrunk the Kids. So it's kind of like a precursor.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

But I do feel like a lot of the a lot of the video games that I guess we kind of started with were educational. There was education.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

They still had a ton. Even like when the kids were little, I used still would get CD-ROM games for them at like yard sales. People would sell them a dime a dozen, you know, and they loved playing them and they were very educational. Like the little mat I they were fun. What's not to like?

SPEAKER_00 21:01

They were. So I used to, I don't know if you ever did this, but I would schedule my week to go hang out with the friends that had different gaming consoles. So one person would have the Coleco, and then when Coleco kind of went away, actually the first one was Atari, but I never had an Atari.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

Um maybe I didn't. Did you ever play it?

SPEAKER_00 21:19

Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

All the original, like Pong and Asteroids, and we definitely played. I just don't think I ever had one.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

Okay. My brother-in-law has had one. He remembers it very well.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

Yeah, I remember Atari, but in television really kind of stuck out for me more than Atari. And then I I wish I would have gotten I never got the Sega. I really always wanted a Sega Genesis.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

So I had friends that had the Sega, but back to the NES.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

Mm hmm.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

I think that changed gaming for everyone.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

I know it did for me. I don't think it's a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

I think it saved the entire industry. As a whole, like literally a cat the the Nintendo NES, because I feel like Coleco, ColecoVision, and Television, they had their run. Nothing kind of video, nothing catapulted video gaming like the Nintendo NES.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

Favorite NES game.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Duck Hunt was always a a favorite for and then, but of course, and I don't know if anybody else would say anything different. And if you do, you're you're just not cool. But just Mario, I mean, was one of the best, the original, you know, like how can you compete with that? Now, granted, there were there were other games that came out that were really, really super fun. But to me, the Mario, it's like your first, you know, the first time you do something. That that was my favorite. I could not, I think I put in so many hours into that game for years. I would always play that no matter what other games came out. And then the the next one that I used to love, funny enough, before I ever was interested in volleyball, was like Kings of the Beach. I think that's what it was called. And it was Beach Volleyball. And a friend of a friend of mine had it, and we I'd go over to her house and she had a Nintendo, and we would we would play it, and I couldn't wait to do that. There was another game that came out that was more of like it's like a treasure hunt, but I can't remember what it was. But yeah, those two games were were some were my favorites when I first started playing.

SPEAKER_00 23:29

Yeah, for me, definitely you all make fun of me for the way I say it, but Mario.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

Mario.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

Mario. Super Mario Brothers was definitely, and then you would get to that point after you were playing for hours. Like your parents would be yelling at you to, you know, get out of the room or go outside or you know, come down for dinner, and you were at a pivotal point.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Right. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Right. And and you had to like you couldn't save that. You couldn't pause.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

No. And you couldn't save that. You could pause.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

You could pause, but then someone would always hit the console, turn it off, and you were devastated. You were heartbroken if someone touched that if you were at that pivotal point, because you had to start all over.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

Oh yeah. And it took so long to get to certain points. But they didn't, I don't think they had an automatic save feature yet. No, they didn't.

SPEAKER_00 24:19

It didn't because there was no like physical storage. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

And I remember taking the game out and blowing it.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Blowing on it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

My gosh.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

It would just all of a sudden glitch in the middle of a pivotal part. I remember that more so. So my my big favorite games was Super Mario, Zelda. I mean, you can't you can't really talk about Nintendo without talking about the Legend of Zelda.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Which is funny I never played.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Yeah, I loved it. I guess because it was similar to an adventure game and it was kind of open. It was the first of its, and I'm sure the the video gamers will come at me if if I'm getting anything inaccurate. This is just my remembering of it. I'm not fact-checking all of this, but kind of the first open world type game where you just kind of walk around. Also, Mike Tyson's punch out. I played that game really so much. It just cracked me up where you know you were trying to time it, and everyone, you know, was telling you, okay, when when this person does this, hit them like this, and just it was a great game. Mike Tyson, and if you got to Mike Tyson and could beat Mike Tyson, you were you were next level. But I think one of my most favorite games was Contra. I freaking loved Contra.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

I don't even know what that is.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

Oh my gosh. That because it was co-op. So it was like the first game I remember that you could play together.

unknown 25:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

You had two two people.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

That was more of an arcade game. That was a yes I remember this. But it was on the NES. It was on the NES. I'm sure it was.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Metroid. I don't know if you ever played Metroid. Nope. And the first so I got a Game Boy, and of course you gotta talk about Tetris, right? Like I didn't play Tetris on the NES a ton, but I played it on my Game Boy nonstop. And I don't know, did you play Excite Bike?

SPEAKER_02 26:11

No.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

Where you were like on the B on the motorcycle? That was another one.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

I'm looking at this. What game was this? What was the race car one? And it always looked like it was in like California. Oh gosh. Do you remember that?

SPEAKER_00 26:27

That was a arcade game.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

Yes. I gotta look. I see it. I just can't. It doesn't have the name. Pole position. No.

SPEAKER_00 26:35

No, that was different.

SPEAKER_02 26:36

Let me open it up and see if it shows.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Anyway, well, I'll I'll find it.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

I'll find it. But yeah. Anyway, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Did you play Teenage Beaten Ninja Turtles?

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Yeah. Yep. I did.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

That was that was a great game on NES too. Because it was another co-op game. So it was always a paint, right? It was amazing how you used to have to share time, right? And and you'd be like, all right, after you die, it's my turn.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

Yes. Oh yeah. Always. I think there was one called Outrun, where it was you were on a motorcycle, but it's so funny because the motions on the motorcycle were so like packed up. You know, they it wasn't like smooth like it is now and realistic. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Oh, where in the arcade you had the uh bike bicycle handlebars and you would push it forward to pull them back.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

Um I love that one.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

So the I don't know if you remember the commercial for Paperboy. That was awesome. I don't like back in the day. I'll put it on the screen. But the commercial for Paperboy was a lot of fun. Did you play Mega Man?

SPEAKER_02 27:40

No. What's Mega Man? I played uh Final Fight.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Yeah, but these are these are not NES games. So Castlevania.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

I'm talking like old Yeah, no, old keyword.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

Frogger, I'm sure you played.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

I didn't play Frogger.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

What was your favorite Super Mario game?

SPEAKER_02 27:59

It had to be the one with the tail, the raccoon tail.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Super Mario 3.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Oh, that was so coveted. People had that game. I never had it.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

I think that's the best NES game ever. Honestly.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

It was like the one with the most features.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

I mean, that just was so much fun because literally Mario turned into the little like flying, what was it? Almost a rain. Raccoon. Raccoon.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

It wasn't a raccoon though, because it was brown and white. But anyway, I just I just remember that game. Literally, you didn't think Super Mario could get any better.

unknown 28:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

And it got better. And literally all the games to my all the Mario games are great, but that's the greatest of all time.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

It was called a Tanookie suit that base recognized. Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

It also do you remember the Super Leaf? Oh, yeah. The leaf the leaf. That was one of my favorite things. That's hilarious. Was it Yosha in that one? Yeah, Yosha. It had the egg and all that. Yeah. That's why I liked it, because it had the most stuff. It was like the creme de la creme, the peak of Mario. Yeah, so that was fun.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

So you were talking about arcade games.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

So what was your so my friend, and if Jeff, if you're ever listening, shout out to Jeff, one of my best friends. I have a lot of friends. So weirdly enough, I don't know if other people my age have this, but I've had my same friend group for my entire life. And we all talk. No, I'm not trying to rub it in. I just I'm curious if that's weird. Literally, I've had I have the same friends I went to grade school with as I do today. We're all still friends. So even though we're spread out all across the country and have our own lives and families and stuff, we we still talk every day. So my friend Jeff and I always went to the arcade. We were arcade junkies. Like, man, you give us a roll of quarters. And back in the day, I gotta figure out a bit. I feel like I say that too much. Back in the day. Do you remember going to restaurants and they had the video games when you walked in, you'd beg your parents for a quarter? Like you couldn't sit at the table for 10 minutes waiting for your food. You had to go enter be entertained at the arcade.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

We never had had that, I don't think. But I would always have my mom would always have birthday parties for me at Pizza Hut. And they had that's where I played all my arcade games. They had multiple arcade games, and we would eat pizza, and that's pretty much all we would do is play arcade games. That's how I knew about like Mortal Kombat and like all these other fun games we used to have. I'm sure I played Frogger too.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

So what was the game that you loved to play the most?

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Was there one Mortal Kombat? I absolutely love that.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

Yeah, that's the one I've got to call it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

That's what I was saying. I said that already.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

You were in the uh Ferrari, I think it was a Testerosa.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

Uh yeah. They I played Mortal Kombat and Nintendo had to be my top.

SPEAKER_00 31:02

It wasn't a Testerosa. Anyway, go ahead. Mortal Kombat had to be your top two. Mortal Kombat.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

Mortal Kombat and Nintendo was my top.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

You didn't play Mortal Kombat on in the arcade?

SPEAKER_02 31:12

That's where I played it. In the arcade. That's the only place I played it. Nintendo was on the Nintendo NES system. Mortal Kombat was in the arcade at Pizza Hut, and that's pretty much all I played. I loved it. I could I played others, but I didn't find them as exciting.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

I don't know why were you good at Mortal Kombat? Could you do all the special moves? You could do all the finishing moves. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

I was really good. And I I don't know why, you know, like I've said this before on another episode. Like I went and tried out for the FBI. I feel like all these little things in our childhood really speak to other things that we do later in life. You know, like the mortal I was really into karate. Like I didn't go to like I wasn't a karate person, like physically, but I loved it. So I love Mortal Kombat, thinking about the moves, you know, and how to like beat beat them, and then you know, NES the Super Mario. I mean, it was just what was not to like. So yeah, those were my two two top games I played. Oregon Trail was the other one.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

So we we were big into Pac-Man. Donkey Kong was a big one for us. Street Fighter was huge.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

Oh, yeah, that was the other one I liked. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

Just because it was again, you could play against each other.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was huge. I remember loving Dig Dug. I don't know why. I don't know if you remember that, where you dig into the ground and had to like blow up the people. We played a lot of Mortal Kombat as well. Double Dragon. Do you remember Double Dragon?

SPEAKER_02 32:42

No, I actually don't.

SPEAKER_00 32:43

And Time Crisis. I don't know if I mean that was like the shooting game. That was huge. Time crisis was huge. So I it's funny because we went to the video game museum here in Texas. That was awesome. Yeah. Walking through all the nostalgia. You want to talk about a walk down memory lane. That's a shout out to the Frisco Discovery Center for their video game museum. A lot of fun. And then at the end of the museum, spoiler alert, they have all the old video games you can go and play. So yeah, it's really awesome. It was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun. Gosh, video games. So now I still love the video game. So getting into the future or getting into more of the updated games. I'll never forget when I got my first Xbox.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

And I never played Sega? You never did like any other.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

I played Sega. Yeah, yeah. I just never had a Sega. I always wanted a Sega and I always wanted a Dreamcast, but I was at that age where I was just not home. So Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

Yeah. Sonic, I mean, come on. You you can't talk about video games without talking about Sonic. The noise of him eating the rings or hitting the rings. I mean, that's that's a soundbite forever burned in my brain. And Sonic was cool because I mean, Hedgehog, I mean, running around, spinning, jumping, and so it was a fun game. Yeah. I always liked Sonic. I had a was it a handheld? No. So I never had the Sega, but I didn't I did, and I'm trying to remember what game.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

Oh, say yeah, we did play that, but my the kids were little, and we played one in particular, and I'm trying to find it. It was something like a haunted house. I have a feeling it was like Goofy or Mickey Mouse in the haunted house or something like that. But that was so much fun. But I didn't really we didn't really stick with Sega for very long. I don't know why. I didn't like it as well.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

Sega kind of fizzled out. I mean, it it had its run.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Yeah, but it that was pretty much it. I mean, I don't remember having it for very long time.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

I think because it was so expensive. I think the dream were the Jaguar. Gosh, I'm mixing it all up. But literally, those consoles were I'm pretty sure they were expensive. So I think that's why it wasn't. And the games were. Yeah. So it it kind of priced a lot of people out of the market.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:01

But so I guess I I was older when I got my first Xbox. And I was it's funny because I was staying at home. I was in between jobs. And at the time when my daughter was born, I was the stay-at-home dad. So when she would go down for a nap, I would play Xbox. And I'll never forget this was when Xbox Live first started, first hit. And playing online against other people was wild. It was just wild to me. It was just a totally, it was a game-changing experience. But you know, before then, well, we could talk about that on a different episode. We can talk about the evolution of the internet and what we had to go through to get online.

SPEAKER_02 35:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

This was, I mean, I at this point, everyone had at least somewhat of a high-speed connection, higher speed connection available. And man, playing playing online on Mech Assault, that was the first game I played on Xbox Live. So that was that was wild. And then Halo came out, and that just destroyed the gaming industry for me in the best possible way. It just shattered everything. And for for all the people that started out playing Xbox, if you got that frickin' sword, you were running around the Halo board like crazy, just pillaging and destroying everybody with that stupid frickin' sword. It was so annoying. Oh my goodness. You would just rage quitting, just oh my gosh, all the time. You just could not get away from the guy with the frickin' sword. So true. But video games, I gotta say, like arcades were just magical places. I just you could get lost in the arcade. You really could for hours. Jeff and I would spend hours, man, and we'd spend so much frickin' money. We'd save money to go play at the arcade and waste it. Like what a waste of money.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

So not really. It was your entertainment.

SPEAKER_00 36:49

It was. And I'll never forget like times were just crazy back then. My parents allowed this. So me and my friends decided to go to Wildwood, New Jersey. Now we grew up in Philly. Wildwood was a couple hours away by ourselves at 14 or 15. We took a bus, literally took a bus state. I don't even know how this happened. We got a hotel room. I I am not lying about any of this. This is all truth. We got a hotel room, teen young teenagers in a hotel room on the beach by ourselves, no parental supervision whatsoever. For like four days.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

Yeah, that's an arc crazy, I think.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

There was an arcade. We were 14. There was an arcade right next to the hotel. So Jeff and I literally spent when we weren't trying to like pick up girls for whatever reason. And that was that was the big thing at night. We were at the arcade. Because, you know, arcades really were chick magnets back in the day. That was a joke. So I just, you know, I think back like we would never let a 14-year-old do that today. No, I'm not sending them to you know, a couple hours away.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

So I mean, I'm sure people still would, but not no, I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_00 38:07

Unsupervised with no parental supervision whatsoever? Yeah. That was that was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

Did you play games?

SPEAKER_00 38:17

Yeah, I told you. We went to um I'm kidding. The arcade.

SPEAKER_02 38:20

Have you ever okay? I have a question. So did you ever did you ever see like those gaming competitions like back in the eighties? You know, they had a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 38:30

Yeah, they still have them.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

No, I know. They're just more like advanced now. But back in the day, like what was that movie called? Wasn't there a movie in the eighties about games? Oh, there was, there was. And I think that really kind of made me think, Oh, I would love to do something like that. It was about the kid that played the arcade game and he was really good. Who was that? Anyway, I loved like uh the thought of a gaming competition.

SPEAKER_00 38:58

Three before The Wizard.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

The Wizard! Yes, I love that movie. We gotta watch that movie again. I love that movie. Totally writing that down. We're watching that tonight.

SPEAKER_00 39:08

And it was because they competed in Nintendo video games.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

Yes, I think that's why I liked it so much. But that was did Disney make that, does it say?

SPEAKER_01 39:17

I don't think it was someone else. No.

SPEAKER_02 39:19

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Fred Savage.

SPEAKER_02 39:22

Yeah, that's who it was. That was such a great movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

That and you know, Tron too, talking about like you know, it's funny I movies too.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know anything about Tron growing up.

SPEAKER_00 39:36

The Tron game was awesome because of the bikes, but like the light bikes put you again, you you were you went into like shock when we rode that at Disney World.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:49

You remember the Tron ride?

SPEAKER_02 39:51

Yeah. I try not to. It was very traumatic. And every time I someone talks about going to Disney, so growing up, my parents never took us to Disney. All my friends went as kids, you know, and I always wanted to go, but my parents never took me. They just didn't want to spend the money on it. I guess.

SPEAKER_00 40:09

Didn't you live in Florida too?

SPEAKER_02 40:11

Huh? What?

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Did you live in Florida or your parents lived in Florida?

SPEAKER_02 40:14

No, but that wasn't until I was like in my twenties.

unknown 40:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

My dad had a job there. So we could have gone then, but even then I didn't have any money to go. Yeah, but we finally went like a couple years ago as a family. I never I have realized so much about myself the past three years. I never realized how deathly afraid I am of uh uh roller coasters. I'm afraid of heights to a certain extent, but not like deathly afraid. I'm like, I got on the Tron ride and I thought I was gonna get decapitated. I closed my eyes, I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. Then I got on Guardians of the Galaxy, and that was which was amazing.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

Best ride at Disney outside of the what was it, the Aerosmith roller coaster, which was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

The rock and roll one.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

Yeah, that that one was really good because it was all like in the room. I didn't like any of it.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

To be to be brutally honest, no, I did not like them. Well, that was the first time I ever had feeling felt nauseous after a ride. And I'm very adventurous. So for me not to like, I just thought I was literally gonna die. So it was so bad.

SPEAKER_00 41:22

I love roller coasters. Love, love, love.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

You and Travis did great. I mean, even Becca was great at it. She didn't she was just like, okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Yes. But those um, yeah, I lost my train of thought. We were talking about something that's oh, Tron. Yeah. So yes, Tron, the the light bikes were that that kind of it was just a very cool visual. There was just like awesome visuals with that. So and anything that was a movie that they turned into a game was interesting if it was executed well. A lot of them weren't, but that that I feel like definitely kind of hit the mark in some spots. Did you watch the movie Hackers too back in '95?

SPEAKER_02 41:59

One of my favorite movies ever back in the day. I just thought that was like I was like, these people are so cool. And Angelina Joe Lee was just like, I was like, I want to be her. She's super cool. It was it was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 42:15

Video games. Who who would have thought it they would have created as memory as many memories as they did? And I and I I guess every generation goes through this evolution of change, but I feel like our generation saw some of the biggest technological advances. I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying that, but flamed. But think about it. Through the birth of the internet, the birth of the cell phone, right? Even just those two like literally changed the way we live forever. Forever. You will never go back. And I just, you know, the internet was the end of the world. You remember like everyone's like it'll be the death of the world.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

Y2K.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

Y2K. I'm never forget working over. I was on call for Y2K because I was working for like a technology company at that point. And our job, my job was I serviced and supported small banks, and back in the day they were called Mac machines in Philly, money access centers, money access something. And Y2K was going to take out all the ATMs. So that and then the Melissa virus was going around, which was a huge deal.

SPEAKER_02 43:24

I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_00 43:25

For all my IT nerds, they'll know exactly what I'm talking about. So not only were you combating Y2K panic, the Melissa.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

What was it called? Melissa.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

I forget. I actually forget.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

Someone had a bad girlfriend.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

I just the the name of that virus sticks out in my head. So we were supporting those. And I also worked for the government at that point, like state and local government, and Y2K was a big deal because all their systems were mainframe based and old. So it was wild. Those were wild times. The wild, wild, the wild west of growing up in The early stages of technology was something different. Especially if this will be a funny, maybe I'll do this episode by myself because I don't want to bore you, but I'll tell one quick story.

SPEAKER_02 44:11

Thank you. No, I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

So there was these main, there were the computer rooms back in the day. They still have them. And literally they were raised floors and they were temperature controlled. And there was always like one or two people that would run these computer centers or computer rooms. And I my job, I had to change the tape, the backup tape. Every day I had to go in and change the backup tape for a bunch of different clients. And then I would have to take those tapes off-site, drop them to like Iron Mountain or something. And there was one particular client I had where it was a guy. He would sit in the computer room all day, right? That was his thing, monitor the screens and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

And he used to store his McDonald's in the floor. He would buy like a bunch of burgers and it was so cold in there. I was like, this is so nasty. But this is like this was his thing. He would store like a bag of burgers, McDonald's burgers, in the floor of the race. Yeah, but it was cold.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

It was just I'll eat a cold burger. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 45:13

Yeah, you're savage like that.

SPEAKER_02 45:16

I also drink cold coffee and two-day old coffee.

SPEAKER_00 45:19

Yes, like straight out the fridge.

SPEAKER_02 45:21

Yeah, I have no qualms of qualms about that.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

Yeah, you were a survivalist.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

Oregon Trail trained me well.

SPEAKER_00 45:28

All right. I'd die of dysentery if I had to drink cold two-day old coffee.

SPEAKER_02 45:33

I would suck the venom venom out of my snake bite.

SPEAKER_00 45:36

Oh gosh, isn't that what you had to do?

SPEAKER_02 45:38

Yeah. Didn't you have to in the game?

SPEAKER_00 45:41

This is why we were built different, I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

Yeah. All of our childhood nursing rhymes were about death. Trauma. We grew up in training. And our video game was about death and dying. I mean, it is kind of crazy, don't you think? Like that's so weird.

SPEAKER_00 45:58

I think it's why we're so sarcastic and just snappy and witty.

SPEAKER_02 46:04

I guess. I think I feel like our generation has- Why are we not more depressed as a generation like our generation, you know, based on all the things?

SPEAKER_00 46:12

You had to survive since day one. I mean, you were literally surviving.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

Yeah. There there was no participation awards back then.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

Yeah, true. So actually, no, there were. I got some.

SPEAKER_00 46:24

Yeah, you then that's because you're from the sound. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 46:28

I'm kidding. No, there were lots of great. Huh?

SPEAKER_00 46:31

If you're not first, you're last.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 46:34

That's a movie reference. I know you wouldn't get it.

SPEAKER_02 46:36

Of course not.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

Talladay good nights, baby. Talladay good nights. Shake a bake. Shake and bake.

SPEAKER_02 46:41

Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

So And on that note.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

On that note. This has been a fun ride. Talking about this stuff definitely puts a positive spin on the day. It's been a fun ride. No pun in the full point.

SPEAKER_02 46:54

Another reason why we do these in the morning now, because it is so fun.

SPEAKER_00 46:57

It starts the day, right?

SPEAKER_02 46:59

It slingshots you into the day with sunshine.

SPEAKER_00 47:02

And now we're going to hop in the Ferrari and go out run, you know, immersive driving, you know, with that vibey music and scenery.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

Seriously, though.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

I really do want to go. Yeah, you gotta go dye your hair.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

Oh, I want to go play video games now. Like I really do. We gotta go. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 47:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:22

What video game are we gonna play?

SPEAKER_02 47:23

Who cares? Let's just go.

unknown 47:25

All right.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

We're gonna have to talk about the future. We'll have to do a part two of this because I feel like I have more to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 47:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

And on that note, not today. This was a great episode. Thank thanks for all the support listening, and hopefully you enjoyed this as much as we did.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

And let us know about your experiences with video games. We want to use it.

SPEAKER_00 47:45

Let us know what your favorite video game was.

unknown 47:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:48

And favorite video game console or favorite computer video game or just something. Let us know something.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 47:54

Along those lines.

SPEAKER_02 47:55

Yes. Something. Or correct us if we if we quoted something incorrectly about a game.

SPEAKER_00 48:01

Well, thanks for tuning in to the Wells nostalgic video game episode. So this is another source of nostalgia. Source of nostalgia. Yeah. We're really loving the nostalgia stuff.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:14

So thank you for listening and tuning in to another episode of The Well. I'm Drew. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 48:19

And I'm Kat.

SPEAKER_00 48:20

Yeah. We'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_02 48:22

Have a great day. Bye.